[bolle]

i was just wonderin should i have a problem with my ball joints if my front end is chained down??? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

[rlowride]

[quote]Originally posted by bolle:
<strong>i was just wonderin should i have a problem with my ball joints if my front end is chained down??? </strong><hr></blockquote>

if the chains break yes... but you put enough chain in there to keep from locking the shit out, that way the stress is never put to the joints in the first place...

[Unity_Jon]

sorry for being ignorant but why have you 'chained the front down' ??

[rlowride]

[quote]Originally posted by Unity_Jon:
<strong>sorry for being ignorant but why have you 'chained the front down' ??</strong><hr></blockquote>

its not ignorant.. its a good question. when seriously hopping the car, you ut a lot of stress on the ball joint. thats the only thing keeping the upper a arm connected to the wheel assembly so each time you hop, when you lock the car out/up, all that force is applied to the ball joints, upper and lower. Thats why ball joints brake.
So, you weld a box to the frame of the car, and one on the lower control arm. Lift the car to where it almost locks out. now you install enough chain from the top box to the lower to keep all that pressure from being put on to the ball joints. So now when you hop, the chain takes all the force, and as an added benefit: Since you have the chain connected to the car frame and lower a arm, the chain kinda acts like a pulley per say by pulling up hard on the lower control arm.
Do you see it? How it works?
This is another one of those simple but useful tricks that nobody shares.
Also, if/when the upper ball joint breaks (it still can) it will stop the spring from shooting out and injuring some body. The chain is holding the lower arm up.the wheel will still flop down and get fucked, but you arent firing a spring at anybody either.......

Happy Hopping

[juandik]

whats more fun than watching 50 people scatter when a 3t spring is bareling at'em like a heat seeking misile?

[rlowride]

[quote]Originally posted by juandik:
<strong>whats more fun than watching 50 people scatter when a 3t spring is bareling at'em like a heat seeking misile?</strong><hr></blockquote>

That is true! Cause we know it, thats why we stand back, behind the drivers door! lol

[cali4lyf]

Am I correct in assumming that this chain thing can work on X-frame cars to?

[quote]Originally posted by juandik:
<strong>whats more fun than watching 50 people scatter when a 3t spring is bareling at'em like a heat seeking misile?</strong><hr></blockquote>

no shit wheres the blood??? as long as whoever it hits is bleeding profusly but ok.. its entertainment!

[rlowride]

[quote]Originally posted by UnitedRidaZ:
<strong>

no shit wheres the blood??? as long as whoever it hits is bleeding profusly but ok.. its entertainment!</strong><hr></blockquote>

no doubt!


yes it works on imps too.

[Unity_Jon]

I understand what your saying and about where to put the chain, but the force of the hydro's goes into the cylinder which when extended to full length will pass the stress into the top mount or donut in the old shock tower - not the ball joint, unless you're using 'floating rams' then i guess it will go to the bolts holding the A-Arm to the chassis and then transferred to the chassis itself, i cant see it ever getting to the ball joint ?

In my experience ball joints only break when you try to repeatedly move them outside of their range, they become weak and eventually break, a well designed system should never put the components out of their normal range ?

If a ball joint is going to break due to loading surely they'll both break as the load is shared between them, not just the top one ?

obviously you have much more experience in this than myself and i'm definately not saying your wrong, far from it, I guess i still have a lot to learn, but we do things slightly differently on this side of the pond, its good to learn new stuff.

[ September 09, 2002: Message edited by: Unity_Jon ]</p>