back door?

rlowride · 08-04-2002, 02:24 AM

Whos builing them, i know a secret, but can you supply pics as for quality, and why is the price 300 bucks more, I know there is a lil invoved, But 300 bucks worth?
Does this include all the fittings, big checks and stuff like that?

08-04-2002, 02:36 AM

everything but dumps.. the builder is a reliable source that wishes to be unnamed but they are old school marz and only showtime still carrys them so

juandik · 08-10-2002, 03:20 AM

will this theory work on all size pumpheads or is it best utilized on the lower# which produce the most press and lack the flow?i run 120volts if that is a variable.i also use oversized cylinders.all info used and welcomed.oh yeah rick has seen cp's car hop so don't bullshit me,my car is built as a twin to his.

[ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: juandik ]</p>

rlowride · 08-10-2002, 04:44 AM

juan, im not sure what you are saying, but ill tell ya what, cp's cars set up is sweet..... i love the way it looks....in tha trunk.

08-10-2002, 06:53 AM

[quote]Originally posted by juandik:
<strong>will this theory work on all size pumpheads or is it best utilized on the lower# which produce the most press and lack the flow?i run 120volts if that is a variable.i also use oversized cylinders.all info used and welcomed.oh yeah rick has seen cp's car hop so don't bullshit me,my car is built as a twin to his.

[ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: juandik ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

well ill try to answer but im not to hip on it either... i only have the theory down.. but iw ill try

lets say u run a number 11 gear and 72+ volts like the other guy said the ports on the marz head isnt gonna be bale to flow all the pressure form that...so the other pressure port on the pumphead will help out and get back the pressure ur gonna lose..

its recomended to use the adex dumps.. and more thna 60 volts and they pumpheads are 9's sorry i cant asnwer ya but like isaid i got the theory down but not the way it actually helps... id have to ask my guy..ill try and get him here to answer ur ??

juandik · 08-10-2002, 09:21 PM

so are you saying the is to displace flow or redirect flow?pressxarea=force,it take force to lift a car lower # head= more press back door will multiply the flow= balance equqtion?

#11's are lower press=less force= less lift
+back door is more flow but still no gain in press orforce.

thats just how my mind thinks even though i smell the gears a burning in there!

oh yeah i still say this is not as important in the equation as some are making it to be.

but thanks to all .

rick thanks for the complaments on the setups c-ya'll out there.

OrangeCounty58 · 08-14-2002, 01:07 PM

when it comes to something like this the best thing is to try it. i saw this supposed "revolutionary" thought in japan. if it truely worked as well as people think it does, it would have been done over and over by now. i know a couple people personally who have tried just about every configuration personally. and these are the folks who design the gears. new gear coming out that will blow away all gears. if the install is done right and people think about the install before doing it, no need for the "back door". fun to talk about i guess.

rlowride · 08-15-2002, 05:05 AM

[quote]if the install is done right and people think about the install before doing it<hr></blockquote>

thats the shit i dont like..... yeah when something like that is done, it usually somewhat straight forward, and your like dohhhhhhh... but you dont truly see it or think about it until someone has shown you.....

and that quote above is fact and evidence of the fact.. we all do that.....

we are like damn that was so simple, if ya just think about it, you will see it.... But in all truthfullness, you cant think about it cause you dont know it can be done or how to attept what cant be done, until you see it.....

UCYI3WL · 08-15-2002, 01:15 PM

Not only do i not understand how to do it, I wouldnt do it...I dont think it will help out all that much in my opinion but i havent seen one in person either...May have at a hopoff but didnt look in the trunk...But im not big on hopping so i guess i wouldnt understand it??LOL

rlowride · 08-15-2002, 04:35 PM

well yeah, i think it helps, just dont know how to apply the technology...

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08-04-2002, 02:24 AM	#21 (permalink)
rlowride UnitedRidaz C.C. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Giant sink hole in FLA. Posts: 2,962	Whos builing them, i know a secret, but can you supply pics as for quality, and why is the price 300 bucks more, I know there is a lil invoved, But 300 bucks worth? Does this include all the fittings, big checks and stuff like that?

08-04-2002, 02:36 AM	#22 (permalink)
UnitedRidaZ Guest Posts: n/a	everything but dumps.. the builder is a reliable source that wishes to be unnamed but they are old school marz and only showtime still carrys them so

08-10-2002, 03:20 AM	#23 (permalink)
juandik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: hamilton.ohio Posts: 9	will this theory work on all size pumpheads or is it best utilized on the lower# which produce the most press and lack the flow?i run 120volts if that is a variable.i also use oversized cylinders.all info used and welcomed.oh yeah rick has seen cp's car hop so don't bullshit me,my car is built as a twin to his. [ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: juandik ]</p>

08-10-2002, 04:44 AM	#24 (permalink)
rlowride UnitedRidaz C.C. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Giant sink hole in FLA. Posts: 2,962	juan, im not sure what you are saying, but ill tell ya what, cp's cars set up is sweet..... i love the way it looks....in tha trunk.

08-10-2002, 06:53 AM	#25 (permalink)
UnitedRidaZ Guest Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by juandik: <strong>will this theory work on all size pumpheads or is it best utilized on the lower# which produce the most press and lack the flow?i run 120volts if that is a variable.i also use oversized cylinders.all info used and welcomed.oh yeah rick has seen cp's car hop so don't bullshit me,my car is built as a twin to his. [ August 10, 2002: Message edited by: juandik ]</strong><hr></blockquote> well ill try to answer but im not to hip on it either... i only have the theory down.. but iw ill try lets say u run a number 11 gear and 72+ volts like the other guy said the ports on the marz head isnt gonna be bale to flow all the pressure form that...so the other pressure port on the pumphead will help out and get back the pressure ur gonna lose.. its recomended to use the adex dumps.. and more thna 60 volts and they pumpheads are 9's sorry i cant asnwer ya but like isaid i got the theory down but not the way it actually helps... id have to ask my guy..ill try and get him here to answer ur ??

08-10-2002, 09:21 PM	#26 (permalink)
juandik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: hamilton.ohio Posts: 9	so are you saying the is to displace flow or redirect flow?pressxarea=force,it take force to lift a car lower # head= more press back door will multiply the flow= balance equqtion? #11's are lower press=less force= less lift +back door is more flow but still no gain in press orforce. thats just how my mind thinks even though i smell the gears a burning in there! oh yeah i still say this is not as important in the equation as some are making it to be. but thanks to all . rick thanks for the complaments on the setups c-ya'll out there.

08-14-2002, 01:07 PM	#27 (permalink)
OrangeCounty58 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County Posts: 101	when it comes to something like this the best thing is to try it. i saw this supposed "revolutionary" thought in japan. if it truely worked as well as people think it does, it would have been done over and over by now. i know a couple people personally who have tried just about every configuration personally. and these are the folks who design the gears. new gear coming out that will blow away all gears. if the install is done right and people think about the install before doing it, no need for the "back door". fun to talk about i guess.

08-15-2002, 05:05 AM	#28 (permalink)
rlowride UnitedRidaz C.C. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Giant sink hole in FLA. Posts: 2,962	[quote]if the install is done right and people think about the install before doing it<hr></blockquote> thats the shit i dont like..... yeah when something like that is done, it usually somewhat straight forward, and your like dohhhhhhh... but you dont truly see it or think about it until someone has shown you..... and that quote above is fact and evidence of the fact.. we all do that..... we are like damn that was so simple, if ya just think about it, you will see it.... But in all truthfullness, you cant think about it cause you dont know it can be done or how to attept what cant be done, until you see it.....

08-15-2002, 01:15 PM	#29 (permalink)
UCYI3WL UnitedRidaz C.C. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2,813	Not only do i not understand how to do it, I wouldnt do it...I dont think it will help out all that much in my opinion but i havent seen one in person either...May have at a hopoff but didnt look in the trunk...But im not big on hopping so i guess i wouldnt understand it??LOL

08-15-2002, 04:35 PM	#30 (permalink)
rlowride UnitedRidaz C.C. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Giant sink hole in FLA. Posts: 2,962	well yeah, i think it helps, just dont know how to apply the technology...