[stenelli]

okay so i got everything working on my air ride setup. i can pretty much do it all thanks for the help from the people on here. okay but there is one problem left. I got 2 480 viair 100% duty cycle compressors. when they are running my valves seem to not get enough juice to them. I have them hooked up to a switch so i can turn them on and off as needed. when i trun them off my switches will work great. i have the battery up front of course. i added a battery in back. do i need a stronger alternator? another battery? get a bigger battery for the back...or whats something that could fix this? the battery are wired together so alternator charges them both...okay well you get it i am just getting frustrated and rambleing on....

[lowlowfoshow2005]

Originally Posted by stenelli

okay so i got everything working on my air ride setup. i can pretty much do it all thanks for the help from the people on here. okay but there is one problem left. I got 2 480 viair 100% duty cycle compressors. when they are running my valves seem to not get enough juice to them. I have them hooked up to a switch so i can turn them on and off as needed. when i trun them off my switches will work great. i have the battery up front of course. i added a battery in back. do i need a stronger alternator? another battery? get a bigger battery for the back...or whats something that could fix this? the battery are wired together so alternator charges them both...okay well you get it i am just getting frustrated and rambleing on....

ok here goes bear with me for a few,first prob u need 2 batts in series together neg to pos im sure we all know how to do that.then u will be running 24 volt.even though im sure all the solenoids and valves say 12 they need to run 24 to be accurate.witch brings me to problem#2 you will either have to flip for that 500 + dollar 24 volt alternator to run seperate from the 12 volt batt that powers the car,or just get a street charger from like pro hopper or lona(u can have em custom made 4 any volt setup,some are switchable),and u also can just charge it up nightly...a real pain ask any of the juice boys on her myself included.i know this may sound like alot but the only other thing i can think of is you have bad or no solenoid between your power source and your valves.....thats my 2 hope it helps some......oh ps u need to run a nice 1000cca batt if your only gonna run 12 volts 24 id go with 2 650s or an equivilant.

[1lowcut]

Install nitrogen and your problems will disappear!! I'll let slam tell you about the batteries but i dont think you want to run 24 volts through your car. I think lowlow was thinking you have two in the trunk. I think you shouldnt have needed the extra battery in the trunk. A good one under the hood with a good alt would have done you just fine. I never had a problem like that with my setup when i was running compressors.

[SLAMMED63CHEVY]

Originally Posted by stenelli

okay so i got everything working on my air ride setup. i can pretty much do it all thanks for the help from the people on here. okay but there is one problem left. I got 2 480 viair 100% duty cycle compressors. when they are running my valves seem to not get enough juice to them. I have them hooked up to a switch so i can turn them on and off as needed. when i trun them off my switches will work great. i have the battery up front of course. i added a battery in back. do i need a stronger alternator? another battery? get a bigger battery for the back...or whats something that could fix this? the battery are wired together so alternator charges them both...okay well you get it i am just getting frustrated and rambleing on....

I was running my compressors one time at Hot August Nights, I came up to a light and my car almost stalled out. I thought "what the fuck" I push in the clutch and rev the car to keep it running. I got to a parking lot and turned the car off, and what do you know, the car wouldn’t start. At that time I realized that the compressors running drained my battery completely with the car running. The fix to it was I bought the biggest Optima yellow top they make (barley fit in my batt. tray with modification)and a 180 amp alternator, I ran 8 gauge wire from the batt. to the alternator for better charging flow. I have not had any problems with my compressors after that. Now don't got out and buy the biggest Optima without checking to see if it will fit.


You can run a battery isolator also. A battery isolator will allow the alternator to charge two batteries, one at a time. It will detect what batt. is low and start charging that batt.. You will still need to upgrade you alternator to a bigger one. this setup is commonly found in motor homes, large RVs, houseboats...etc

[lowlowfoshow2005]

Originally Posted by 1lowcut

Install nitrogen and your problems will disappear!! I'll let slam tell you about the batteries but i dont think you want to run 24 volts through your car. I think lowlow was thinking you have two in the trunk. I think you shouldnt have needed the extra battery in the trunk. A good one under the hood with a good alt would have done you just fine. I never had a problem like that with my setup when i was running compressors.

running nitrogen is a good idea but can get expensive,i did mean 24 volts but not through the cars electrical system,only for your compressors .it will make them run twice as fast.basically those compressors have motors very similar to a hydro pump.all these answers are good but id do some research and call c.c.e. in shepardsville ky they will tell you 24 volt can be done but if your a rookie i wouldent atempt it because it can cause a fire if u have no quick disconnect ground.but yeah some nitrogen and a good 1000 cca batt should give you a desired result

[lowlowfoshow2005]

Originally Posted by stenelli

okay so i got everything working on my air ride setup. i can pretty much do it all thanks for the help from the people on here. okay but there is one problem left. I got 2 480 viair 100% duty cycle compressors. when they are running my valves seem to not get enough juice to them. I have them hooked up to a switch so i can turn them on and off as needed. when i trun them off my switches will work great. i have the battery up front of course. i added a battery in back. do i need a stronger alternator? another battery? get a bigger battery for the back...or whats something that could fix this? the battery are wired together so alternator charges them both...okay well you get it i am just getting frustrated and rambleing on....

oh and id do away with the switches for the compressors,actually keep em but u need a couple of electronic pressure regulators-heres a tip they sell em pretty much anywhere they sell compressors.that way u wont need to keep an eye on the guages so much,but you can still have a bypass for safety.....

[SLAMMED63CHEVY]

I wouldn’t run 24v to the compressor, it will burn up faster. The 100% duty cycle is based off of 12v NOT 24v. If you run 24v to your compressor the duty cycle will drop like to 45% meaning you can only run it for 4.5min for every 10min and you will be buying a new compressor every 6 months to a year. A big battery and good charging system is all you need.

If you want to run 24v then get a 24v compressor or a York compressor.

York compressor is a motor driven compressor and can cost from $500 to $1000

Oasis XD 3000 200 is a 12v/24v compressor that will fill a 5 gallon tank on 24v in like 45 seconds faster than a York compressor and can cost from $800 to $1500

Nitrogen is the fastest way to fill a air tank and to get started it will cost from $300 to $400 and to refill the bottle it cost me $18.57 for a big ass bottle that takes up my trunk in a full size car. the smaller bottle that will fit in a G-body car is $12.80 to fill.

[72Eldo]

I am also running 2 Viair 480 comps and I just upgraded my alternator. You gotta think about it like this: your car with all of its systems running will pull a certain amount of Amps. Now you added 2 480s and valves and switches (all of these pull extra amperage) so you need to feed your car all of the amps that it would have previously needed, PLUS all the amperage needed to run the extra hardware you just installed. So what you need to do is look at what amperage your current alternator makes, and look at the TOTAL amperage draw from all the stuff you added (with your system it should be about 50A MAX)....add these two numbers together, add 10%-20% and buy an alternator rated at that amperage capacity. No need to add any batteries...BUT you should upgrade to 4 AWG bat pos, bat ground, and alt-to-bat wire.

[SLAMMED63CHEVY]

Originally Posted by 72Eldo

I am also running 2 Viair 480 comps and I just upgraded my alternator. You gotta think about it like this: your car with all of its systems running will pull a certain amount of Amps. Now you added 2 480s and valves and switches (all of these pull extra amperage) so you need to feed your car all of the amps that it would have previously needed, PLUS all the amperage needed to run the extra hardware you just installed. So what you need to do is look at what amperage your current alternator makes, and look at the TOTAL amperage draw from all the stuff you added (with your system it should be about 50A MAX)....add these two numbers together, add 10%-20% and buy an alternator rated at that amperage capacity. No need to add any batteries...BUT you should upgrade to 4 AWG bat pos, bat ground, and alt-to-bat wire.

Well said....

I run a 180 amp alt. on my car.

[lowlowfoshow2005]

Originally Posted by SLAMMED63CHEVY

I wouldn’t run 24v to the compressor, it will burn up faster. The 100% duty cycle is based off of 12v NOT 24v. If you run 24v to your compressor the duty cycle will drop like to 45% meaning you can only run it for 4.5min for every 10min and you will be buying a new compressor every 6 months to a year. A big battery and good charging system is all you need.

If you want to run 24v then get a 24v compressor or a York compressor.

York compressor is a motor driven compressor and can cost from $500 to $1000

Oasis XD 3000 200 is a 12v/24v compressor that will fill a 5 gallon tank on 24v in like 45 seconds faster than a York compressor and can cost from $800 to $1500
Nitrogen is the fastest way to fill a air tank and to get started it will cost from $300 to $400 and to refill the bottle it cost me $18.57 for a big ass bottle that takes up my trunk in a full size car. the smaller bottle that will fit in a G-body car is $12.80 to fill.

all goodsolutions i just like to push it to the max lol but some 480 vairs should take it unless your just swangin the shit out of your car all the time.my how things have changed since my bag days lol.im just used to hoppin ,where we got like a minute to give it all u got.so thats why i like to max shit out lol.guess thats why im runnin 2 phatboys at 96 volts....just to the front mwahhhhahahaha lol.