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Old 06-10-2008, 05:30 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Panhard bar on air setups

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but with the torque of the axle it will roll back and forth. the inner secondary sleeve is just for dialing the pinion in. everytime you hit the gas the axle would rotate back and when you hit the brakes it would slam forward. if the axle was fixed to the lower links then the telescoping triangle would work. your lower links are bushed and the rearend pivots there also.
So you're saying that the panhard bar keeps the rear end from moving back and forth and also side to side .
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:40 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Panhard bar on air setups

I can see that when the rear end wants to rotate up on acceleration it will pull on the upper trailing arm and push on the lower, when it want to rotate down under braking it will pull on the lower trailing arms and push on the upper . What you're saying would make sense if there were no upper trailing arms
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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the triangle replaces the upper link. the factory configuration has a upper and lower link with a panhard for side to side support. if you eliminate the upper link and panhard bar and replace it with the triangle upper link, then the upper triagle link does the job of both the upper link and panhard bar. by letting the upper triangle link slide it give no front to back support as the factory upper link did. I think you getting confused thinking the factory upper link would stay intact. it replaces the upper link, otherwise they would bind and fight eachother because they are different lengths which means they would be at different angles and have different pivot points......
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the triangle replaces the upper link. the factory configuration has a upper and lower link with a panhard for side to side support. if you eliminate the upper link and panhard bar and replace it with the triangle upper link, then the upper triagle link does the job of both the upper link and panhard bar. by letting the upper triangle link slide it give no front to back support as the factory upper link did. I think you getting confused thinking the factory upper link would stay intact. it replaces the upper link, otherwise they would bind and fight eachother because they are different lengths which means they would be at different angles and have different pivot points......
sounds right to me
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:07 PM   #35 (permalink)
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the triangle replaces the upper link. the factory configuration has a upper and lower link with a panhard for side to side support. if you eliminate the upper link and panhard bar and replace it with the triangle upper link, then the upper triagle link does the job of both the upper link and panhard bar. by letting the upper triangle link slide it give no front to back support as the factory upper link did. I think you getting confused thinking the factory upper link would stay intact. it replaces the upper link, otherwise they would bind and fight eachother because they are different lengths which means they would be at different angles and have different pivot points......

I'm not getting confused. Let’s get technical, the sliding rear end locater lets you keep the stock upper trailing arms, the only thing that changes is the pan hard bar. The sliding rear end locater is a pan hard bar replacement. I never said anything about removing the upper trailing arms. I think you are getting confused when I called it a wishbone my mistake. I know what I'm talking about, this isn't my first BBQ. You're talking about a triangulated linked rear end and I'm talking about a rear end locator. The locator will allows you to get the stability without having to custom three link or four link your rear end. The locator will work with any factory setup

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:50 PM   #36 (permalink)
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without removing the factory upper links then where are you going to mount the 2 triangle mounting points on the rearend? will the triangle link fit with the factory upper links intact? for that link to give you good side to side support those 2 mounting points at the rearend need to be angled 15-20 degrees off center from the front pivot point. didnt realize you were planning on leaving those upper intact.
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without removing the factory upper links then where are you going to mount the 2 triangle mounting points on the rearend? will the triangle link fit with the factory upper links intact? for that link to give you good side to side support those 2 mounting points at the rearend need to be angled 15-20 degrees off center from the front pivot point. didnt realize you were planning on leaving those upper intact.
It can be mounted either with the point on the rear end or the other way, I won't know what way I will mount it until I get under the car and see how much room I have. Hell I might just have to link the rear because lack of space. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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check which rearend you have too. if you have the one with the cast differential then you wont be able to put the single end of the triangle link centered on the rearend. it would require you to weld the mounting brackets on the cast rearend and that a no no. cast becaomes brittle when you weld on it. i've seen people do it and get lucky and have it hold up for a year and i've seen it fail within the first block of their house......
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check which rearend you have too. if you have the one with the cast differential then you wont be able to put the single end of the triangle link centered on the rearend. it would require you to weld the mounting brackets on the cast rearend and that a no no. cast becaomes brittle when you weld on it. i've seen people do it and get lucky and have it hold up for a year and i've seen it fail within the first block of their house......

I have seen that also. I will come up with somthing
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I have seen that also. I will come up with somthing
wishbone with threaded rod to dial it in!
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