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Old 06-05-2008, 07:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Panhard bar on air setups

That's cool thanks,

still think a sliding wishbone it better because it will adjust itself as the rear end moves up and down
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That's cool thanks,

still think a sliding wishbone it better because it will adjust itself as the rear end moves up and down
what keeps it from pitching back or forward during acceleration and braking. Most adjustable suspensions like the wishbones are only adjustable by a threaded rod.

Showtime had adjustable uppers for g-bodies back in the day. they were hydraulic cylinders modded to fit the trailing arm mounts that extended and retracted when you raised and lower your car. they didn't last long so I'm not if it even worked correctly
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Re: Panhard bar on air setups

thats correct. they dont adjust themselves. they are threaded to manually adjust the pinion angle at ride height. if you made one that just slid in and out (self adjusted) it would self adjust your drive shaft through your floor board. i've seen it happen. the sad part was that it was a shop that did it.
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what keeps it from pitching back or forward during acceleration and braking. Most adjustable suspensions like the wishbones are only adjustable by a threaded rod.

Showtime had adjustable uppers for g-bodies back in the day. they were hydraulic cylinders modded to fit the trailing arm mounts that extended and retracted when you raised and lower your car. they didn't last long so I'm not if it even worked correctly
"what keeps it from pitching back or forward during acceleration and braking."

What keep it from doing it on a stock suspension? Nothing changes but the pan hard bar is removed. Your saying that the pan hard bar keep the rear end from moving back and forth under braking and acceleration I thought it was from side to side. All the stock trailing arms will stay the in the same stock place two on the bottom and one on the top. I'm just removing the pan hard bar nothing else

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thats correct. they dont adjust themselves. they are threaded to manually adjust the pinion angle at ride height. if you made one that just slid in and out (self adjusted) it would self adjust your drive shaft through your floor board. i've seen it happen. the sad part was that it was a shop that did it.
How is the driveline going to go through the floor? That's highly unlikely unless I have a u-joint failure and even then I can't see it going through the floor. The driveline won't come out of the trans because it's a two peace, besides the driveline shortens itself when I lift the car anyway.

I don't understand why I would need to adjust a wishbone on a completely stock rear end, the factory set the ride height and I'm not extending the trailing arms I might add another stock upper trailing arm but I don't think that’s really necessary, mostly just for cosmetics.

What 's the pan hard bar do anyway? It keeps the rear end from moving side to side right...

What's the difference if I watt's link it, other than the upper trailing arm won't let me do that?
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"what keeps it from pitching back or forward during acceleration and braking."

What keep it from doing it on a stock suspension? Nothing changes but the pan hard bar is removed. Your saying that the pan hard bar keep the rear end from moving back and forth under braking and acceleration I thought it was from side to side. All the stock trailing arms will stay the in the same stock place two on the bottom and one on the top. I'm just removing the pan hard bar nothing else
no what im asking is if the wishbone is adjustable and slides back and forth on its on what prevents it from pitching back and forth. The wishbones i have seen are adjustable by a threaded and will only change the angle of the rear end when you raise or lower.
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Re: Panhard bar on air setups

The front pivot is welded onto a tube and that tube slides back and forth in another tube just like a telescopic driveline there will be no side to side movement. It move like the telescopic driveline in that when you lift and lower the car it slides back and forth not messing with the pinion angel. The sliding wishbone will just replace the pan hard bar and keep the rear end square when is lifts and lowers

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The front pivot is welded onto a tube and that tube slides back and forth in another tube just like a telescopic driveline there will be no side to side movement. It move like the telescopic driveline in that when you lift and lower the car it slides back and forth not messing with the pinion angel. The sliding wishbone will just replace the pan hard bar and keep the rear end square when is lifts and lowers
post some pics when you get it done my brain is fried!
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Re: Panhard bar on air setups

but with the torque of the axle it will roll back and forth. the inner secondary sleeve is just for dialing the pinion in. everytime you hit the gas the axle would rotate back and when you hit the brakes it would slam forward. if the axle was fixed to the lower links then the telescoping triangle would work. your lower links are bushed and the rearend pivots there also.
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